he Heidenreich brothers open an exiting and challenging perspective onto the current tectonic shifts on the financial markets. By diving deep into various sources from financial reports, to stock market analysis, economic theory, philosophy and politicial economy they come up with a surprising deconstruction of money itself. In this interview we discuss various aspects such as: How a year long discussion between two brothers became a book, The grave predictions of reputable bankers, the bankification of the state, Ponzi Schemes and the middle class, Foucault and the Wirtschaftswunder, Keynes and Rosa Luxemburg, geopolitics, protectionism and the risk of war, alternative virtual currencies, and the need for a change of the global distribution of wealth.